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Shortly after the crash, a politician said he wanted to conduct an investigation to ensure that this type of incident would never happen again. This type of comment, although understandable, clearly illustrates the lack of comprehension on the part of the general public to the dangers involved in high-risk occupations. We know that the United States Navy and Marine Corps provide excellent training, excellent maintenance, and demand all their pilots undergo the most rigorous training. All of this notwithstanding, the United States Navy and Marine Corps understand that failures will occur.
No system, no machine, no individual is perfect, and so one must anticipate the occasional failure, the occasional accident, and the consequences. The consequences are what must be mitigated. Now if this particular politician is going to ensure that no Navy jets ever fly again over a neighborhood in San Diego, then he can in fact have his dream come true. But barring a complete and total ban of naval aircraft over the San Diego civilian airspace, no one can guarantee there won't be another accident.
What can happen is this: The United States Navy and Marine Corps need to investigate this incident and look at all the systemic issues that came together tragically to cause this accident. We would hope that now, with all we understand about the systemic nature of accidents, the pilot is not identified as the cause. Unfortunately, this is all too often the case in air-related events. This represents the easiest way out, and therefore the most common way out, by some unmotivated investigator who is all too happy to say it was simply human error. Any event, especially transportation accidents that involve human beings as operators, pilots, or engineers, generally gets labeled as human error.
In order to understand how errors occur, how failures happen, and what really causes an accident, we need to let go of what Prof. Sidney Dekker, Ph.D, calls the old view. We must adopt what Prof. Dekker calls a new view of human error. Then and only then we recognize that the accident in this case a tragic plane crash is enmeshed in almost spiderweb of complex, interconnected, and yet independent causes. There is no root cause, there is no primal cause, it was not just human error--it was clearly a systemic failure.
In these events, firefighters are the first to be called and we must be ready. From the firefighter perspective, it's our job to be prepared for these events and not to assume that we can make them all go away. In that regard I would suggest that you read the drill on military aircraft located at this link:
http://www.fireengineering.com/display_article/213203/25/none/none/DRILL/Drill-of-the-Week:-Military-Aircraft-Emergencies?
If you want to really do more to get prepared, read a great article by John Carr and Les Omans titled "Responding to Commercial Aircraft Hazmat Incidents." In this article, they address some of the issues with military aircraft. http://www.fireengineering.com/display_article/128427/25/none/none/Feat/Responding-to-commercial-Aircraft-Haz-Mat-Incidents
Just a few things to keep in the back of your mind when you're dealing with a downed military aircraft. Stay away anything painted yellow and black. Remember, these aircraft carry ordnance, weapons, and oftentimes have security systems. If you have a military base near your fire department, request training on what to do and who to contact in the event of a downed military aircraft. During my time at the Albuquerque (NM) Fire Department, the members of the Kirkland Air Force Base were always more than willing to put on classes for us at any time as to what to do if one of their aircraft were compromised or had to make an emergency landing.
The fire service is all about relationships. We need to continue to foster good relationships with our partners, particularly with the military bases in our first due. For more good reading on aircraft emergencies, read "Fire Department Response to Helicopter Emergencies" by Jerry Knapp, Christopher Flatley, and Wayne Sutherland, available here: http://www.fireengineering.com/display_article/251463/25/none/none/Feat/FIRE-DEPARTMENT-RESPONSE-TO-HELICOPTER-EMERGENCIES
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posted by Bobby Halton
12/11/2008 06:39:00 PM
The sprinkler code approval was one of many building, fire, and other code actions in which the fire service plays an important role. Although the passage of RB64 will impact our society, the importance of the fire service's full participation is much needed at this final code hearing and with each subsequent code cycle. Soon after the RB64 vote, we missed another code proposal measure to reduce firefighter death and injury by supporting the fire-rating protection for lightweight construction (RB68) which came to the floor. We had 500 voters leave right after the sprinkler vote and the vote on (RB68) was 703 voted for the proposal with 380 missing the 2/3 voting margin by 58 votes. Many of the fire service members spoken to later in the evening said they had no idea about the impact of RB 68.
All the life safety code efforts accomplished this past week must be continually monitored by the fire service if we are to achieve the greater public good and improve upon fireground safety.
Here are some other ICC Final Code Winners & Losers (click to enlarge chart):
F= FIRE CODE
E = MEANS OF EGRESS CODE
G = BUILDING CODE
AM = ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
AS = ACCEPTED AS SUBMITTED
D = DISAPPROVE
FS54 & 55* (D) disapproved the ICC committee action to remove the elevator enclosure from the building code that was previously APPROVED as an enclosed elevator lobby above the 1st floor in 2007.
Go to the http://www.iccsafe.org/ Web site. On the main page, click on Final Action Hearing Results to review all the final code updates.
Be safe out there,
Jack Murphy
Sean DeCrane
From the "Taming the Fire Environment" Radio Podcast Show
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posted by Peter Prochilo
9/22/2008 03:10:00 PM
For the past two days, the fire code hearings have pasted the following key proposals for the 2009 IFC Code:
Emergency Responder Radio Coverage (F87), which will require approved radio coverage for emergency responders within the building. This will apply for both new and existing buildings.
ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
Sprinkler Riser Redundancy and Isolation (G46), which came out of the ICC Terrorism Resistant Buildings (TRB) committee, will require for buildings 420 feet an interconnected system with two water supply risers, etc.
ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
Inspection, Testing and Operation (F105) of passive fire systems for visually inspecting annually, etc.
ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
Group M - Occupancy (F135) for an automatic sprinkler system for the occupancy use that is primarily for the display and sale for upholstered furniture, etc.
ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
Installation of photo-luminous exit path markings (F211) in existing building groups A, B, E, I and M, etc.
ACCEPTED AS MODIFIED
JUST IN--
Liquid Oxygen stored or used in home care in Groups I-1, I-4 and R occupancies, etc.
ACCEPTED AS SUBMITTED
Jack and Sean will have a full update on the results hearings on a future radio program. CLICK HERE to listen to their latest program regarding these hearings.
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posted by Peter Prochilo
9/18/2008 09:42:00 AM
And Fire Engineering Technical Editor Glenn Corbett talks to a Cincinnati news outlet about reopening the investigation into the 1977 Beverly Hills Supper Club fire. Read the story HERE and visit Glenn's new group on the Fire Engineering Training Community.
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posted by Peter Prochilo
8/15/2008 11:26:00 AM
Our thoughts go out to the firefighters out there, and to everybody in California affected by this disaster.
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posted by Peter Prochilo
10/25/2007 10:57:00 AM
The ink is not yet even dry on the IBC final code hearing in Rochester this past summer where one of the 30 NIST/WTC recommendations on high-rise building was made into a code. Building Owners and Managers Association (BOMA), American Institute of Architects (AIA), and the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA) need to take into consideration that all-hazard emergencies other than fire will require various evacuations to safeguard the occupants. Some of the types of all-hazard evacuations are: internal building relocation, partial or full building evacuations. The need for a third stair in a mega high-rise building (420 feet) is more prevalent today because of the potential threats, whether man-made or natural. Each type of evacuation will depend on the incident situational awareness to the building and how to best act accordingly to an all-hazard threat. OSHA is also advocating that all large occupied buildings participate in emergency preparedness beyond just fire.
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posted by Peter Prochilo
10/16/2007 02:57:00 PM
2 Comments:
- Bruce Lacillade said...
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I strongly support the third stairwell in a highrise building. As a retired Fire Prevention Inspector(Burlington,Ontario)
I was involved in the retro-fitting of a number of high-rise(>7 stories)residential bldgs.
Even though a Retro-fit Section was added to the Ontario Fire Code in the 1990's we still had to, at times, be rather creative in achieving compliance and at times go with meetint the 'intent'of the Code. A third stairwell will not only add to the safety of the evac. of the occupants but also aid in fire suppression. - Wed Oct 17, 10:23:00 AM EDT
- Peter Prochilo said...
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Comments below by George H. Potter:
Forty plus story hgh rises are extremely complicated structures. Thousands of persons, some, few or many, could be disabled or handicapped. The evacuation of these occupants and possible visitors is extremely complicated, and if free flowing access by fire and rescue responders is hampered by the flow of evacuees, the results could be disastrous. There are projects in the USA and world-wide for buildings surpassing 100 floors, hinting at occupancies of possibly 10,000 persons per building.
If builders and promoters oppose a third, or more stairwells, their utter disregard for life safety is obvious. It also indicates their total lack of respect for humanity. A point to ponder, how many of these grand and enlightened businessmen have their offices or corporate headquarters above the 10th floor?
George H. Potter
Fire Protection Specialist
High rise operations instructor - Fri Oct 19, 08:34:00 AM EDT
In addition to the lack of even the most basic of firesafety measures at the Deutsche Bank at Ground Zero in NYC, the building was (and continues to be) full of plywood. Even though it is accepted practice to construct asbestos removal "containment" partitions of plywood in a building of a few stories, why is it acceptable to use this material (and plastic as well) in a 40 story high-rise under demolition (with torches and the like)? It was reported yesterday that only weeks before deadly fire that killed two firefighters, that a fire was noted by environmental inspectors as they did their inspection and the FDNY was never called. You could not build a new high-rise with plywood walls and partitions - why does it make sense to allow it in a building under demolition? Why does the US EPA allow such dangerous practices? Why does the EPA think that the use of plywood is even a good containment method when fire is a distinct possibility? The photo shown was taken on 9/11/07.
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posted by Glenn Corbett
9/18/2007 01:28:00 PM
The Times story is nothing new--various firefighting orgs have called on the Justice Department to quit stalling and award these benefits--but it's good to see this reporting cropping up in a major media outlet.
Hat tip: www.FireFighterCloseCalls.com
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posted by Peter Prochilo
8/09/2007 11:16:00 AM
Thanks to the chief and others in the Roseville department for providing these astounding photos, and to Deputy Chief of Personnel Jean Kidd and Cam Haugland of the Minneapolis FD for the other pics.
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posted by Peter Prochilo
8/02/2007 03:16:00 PM
1 Comments:
- Tatunka said...
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Just to clarify, Dep. Kidd and Cam both work for Minneapolis Fire. Also the interview was nice but why not interview the people who were in charge of the collapse including MFD Training Chief Dick Christenson (Act. Dep. day of) Asst. Chief John Fruetel, and CoD Jim Clack. But thats just my opinion.
- Mon Aug 20, 03:46:00 PM EDT
The LAFD and all of his brothers and sister across the United States will always remember the courageous service of Apparatus Operator Thomas G. Taylor while remaining vigilant to protect society from and each other individuals who commit such heinous crimes. On August 17, 2007, the California Department of Corrections (CDC) Board of Parole Hearings (BPH) will convene to review lnmate Catanio's suitability for parole. As such, the Department in collaboration with United Firefighters of Los Angeles has begun an aggressive letter writing campaign to appeal to both the BPH and Governor Schwarzenegger opposing Catanio's parole.
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/26/2007 03:11:00 PM
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I agree. This inmate should NEVER be allowed to be released. We, as Firefighters and Medics are there to save lives and property. Our lives are precious to us and our family and friends. When someone kills one of us, it deprieves our family and friends of us. Our families should never have to worry about a firefighter/medic/cop killer being released back into society to possibly repeat this same action.
- Fri Aug 03, 01:00:00 AM EDT
It is very important that you contact your senators in Congress and explain how vital the Fire Grants program is to protecting and equipping the fire service. Call your senators as soon as possible to convey your support of the Fire Grants program.
If you do not have their direct telephone number, you can visit the Senate web site at www.senate.gov to obtain this information. The Senate operator can be reached at 202-224-3121.
In the FY2008 budget released in February, the White House proposed cutting funding to the Assistance to Firefighters Grants program by almost half, to $300 million from the $547 million appropriated for the current fiscal year of 2007. The House bill, HR.2638, funds the Assistance to Firefighters Grants program at $570 million, an increase by $23 million over last year. The House bill also funds the SAFER program at $230 million, an increase by $115 million over last year. The bill passed the House by 268 to 150. The Senate is also proposing to increase funding for these critical programs as well. Contact your senators to express your support for the Fire Grants program.
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/22/2007 03:53:00 PM
http://download.pennnet.com/fe/misc/20070720emsstrike.pdf
I hope someday all emergency medical services in the United States is run by the local FDs (wherever that is possible). I do not care how the departments set it up. I just know fire departments run EMS better than private companies do. And that opinion is shared by some of the best doctors in America-- read their thoughts here.
http://download.pennnet.com/fe/misc/200706fdemsresponse.pdf
I am positive we treat each other better. We do not call ourselves brothers and sisters because it sounds good: we mean it."
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/22/2007 03:23:00 PM
1 Comments:
- ILOVE911 said...
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BOBBY,BOBBY,BOBBY !!!
Look at the statistics Bobby !!!
Private companies run 2-3 times the # of ALS and BLS transpots at the FD, and with only a quarter of the lawsuits !!
Of Course, Bobby, you Hero's have capped your negligence claims to a few hundred thousands, and the local newspapers, not wanting to offend " The Hero's" do not publish your acts of negligence ! - Wed Jul 25, 09:52:00 PM EDT
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posted by Peter Prochilo
7/19/2007 01:50:00 PM
Please check out this link:
http://downloads.pennnet.com/fe/misc/20070712nfffcharleston.pdf...
It's all about family, our family.
Thanks,
Bobby
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/12/2007 12:21:00 PM
http://www.citypaper.com/columns/story.asp?id=13835
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/11/2007 04:59:00 PM
2 Comments:
- Tom Rinaldi said...
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Lets not destablize and continue to demoralize an entire department. There needs to be a focus on past practices, learn of the mistakes and make changes. First responders in all disciplines get complacent and its time to tighten up on the execution of policies and procedures or write some new ones. He's on probation, he needs to take positive action.
- Thu Jul 12, 01:35:00 PM EDT
- John Buckman said...
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Bobby
I believe the Chief should stay until it can be shown that the Chief was aware of the obvious lack of concern for following procedures.
There is always a rush in many of these type of incidents to point finger and place blame.
In this case there is plenty of evidence that more than one person is responsible for this horrendous event. - Sun Jul 15, 09:15:00 PM EDT
We want to be aware of our safety all the time but, being ready for the worst on or off the job is really important. CLICK HERE to read about how the Charleston nine's families are trying to cope with the lack of wills to address their estates.
The best way to insure your family is treated the way you want is to maintain a Firefighter Emergency Contact Form. The information that you provide is only to be used in the event of your serious injury or death in the line-of-duty. Every firefighter should have one filled out fully and accurately because the data will help your department take care of your family. The forms should be updated anytime you feel it is necessary, but reviewed annually. This information is considered highly confidential and must be restricted for emergency use only. It should at a minimum contain personal information about your family--wife, kids, mom, dad, brothers, and sisters--names and contact information. List several who you want to be contacted first, best friend, chief, union president to notify your family. It should identify your religious preferences, donation wishes, veteran status, funeral wishes and the location of your will.
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/11/2007 04:46:00 PM
They will lay Eric to rest with full honors on Thursday. As more information on why we lost this fine firefighter becomes available, I will pass it along. We will post the funeral information on this link as soon as it is finalized. The entire Fire Engineering family is deeply saddened by this tragic loss and wish to express our condolences to Eric's family.
The conditions in Washington have the entire state under a red flag warning. Firefighters here are expecting a very active fire season. To read more about the fires raging across the West, CLICK HERE.
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posted by Bobby Halton
7/09/2007 11:04:00 PM
1 Comments:
- Ellen said...
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Great to see you this week Bobby! Thanks again for taking the time to visit the SFD and speaking at our State Chief’s Conference. The passion that you have for the Fire Service is admirable and contagious. We all enjoyed having you in the Pacific Northwest and please remember that you are always welcome. –Brian
- Wed Jul 11, 11:53:00 AM EDT
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